Curiouser and curiouser.After another test, I noticed that all symbol instances appear to have been deleted from all layers - except 2 instances of a door symbol that is used in multiple locations. I thought at first all instances had been deleted, but I noticed 2 doors still showing in both origin and destination layers.I checked the Symbol list and indeed all symbols show as 0 instances, except this door which still shows 2 instances, obviously the ones I can still see.So…When the symbol instances appear to get deleted from the layers, they really are deleted and the doc now shows 0 instances. But how come this problem actually leaves behind 2 symbol instances? Why one earth would it delete everything except those 2? This is probably the most puzzling aspect.And still no nearer to figuring out how to copy symbol instances from one doc to another. So right now, I’m stumped.Thorsten? > On 21 Mar 2016, at 09:45, Ken Gillett
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cadintoshmac@yahoogroups.com> wrote:> > And even further…> > I tried again, this time adding a different symbol to another unrelated (and empty) layer, in fact 497. I again tried Layer/Duplicate… from 400 to 498 and all symbols vanished, including the one I just added to 497. Gone, all of them.> > Any suggestions how to copy symbol instances between 2 documents?> >> On 21 Mar 2016, at 09:38, Ken Gillett
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cadintoshmac@yahoogroups.com> wrote:>> >> Further to the symbol problem…>> >> The single object I thought had been dropped in the duplicate layer process was not. It was there and had been copied, but that resulted in a different Z order and it was simply hidden. So the problem is just the symbol deletion.>> >> I deleted from the library the duplicates for several (non window) symbols and placed one on the same layer (400) I’ve been testing and tried duplicating the layer again. As before, ALL symbols have disappeared from both the origin and the destination layers, even the new one I just added.>> >>> On 21 Mar 2016, at 09:18, Ken Gillett
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cadintoshmac@yahoogroups.com> wrote:>>> >>> I’m sure it’s not intentional and I’m also sure I didn’t do anything explicitly with the symbols.>>> >>> I just duplicated the earlier file that still includes the windows symbols and opened that copy in Cadintosh (which was not running, so just started afresh). The document opened with layer 400 showing (and a couple of others with minor objects). I’ve done this a couple of times and to simplify, this is what occurs:->>> >>> Set current layer to 499 (an empty layer) and show only 400 (with plan of house including about a dozen window symbols) and 498 which is empty. Select menu Layer/Duplicate… and type 400, Return, 498 and Return again. This should simply duplicate layer 400 to 498, everything. The 2 layers should now be identical yes? 2 problems:->>> >>> 498 is actually missing an object that exists in 400. Just a small one, but a quick flip between the 2 layers indicates that object was not copied, although it does still exist in the original layer 400. It is possible it’s just somehow hidden, but I didn’t look in more detail because...>>> >>> that’s not the main problem.>>> >>> NEITHER layer contains ANY window symbols. layers 400 and 498 are BOTH devoid of any of those window symbols that existed in 400 before that Layer/Duplicate… process. All instances of those symbols have been eliminated from the entire document.>>> >>> I have done that repeatedly on several different versions of the document and in every case, all the window symbols get trashed.>>> >>> Thinking about this some more, it is not just a single symbol. I have several different symbols I use for windows. It appears that all instances of all symbols get trashed.>>> >>> I also notice that in the library there are 3 copies of every symbol. There shouldn’t be. I only created one of each and the dupes are named with #1 and #2 after the original name. This is something that Cadintosh has done. Why? Is this relevant to the current problem?>>> >>> But aside from the multiple symbols, everything seems to be working as it should, except I cannot use Layer/Duplicate… which wouldn’t be too much bother right now, except that it has destroyed my document. What I DO need to be able to do is copy those window symbols from one still intact document to the new one where they’ve been secretly deleted. Trying to add each one again as a fresh instance of the symbols will just take too long as each had its own unique dimensions and orientation. How can I copy such symbol instances from one doc to another?>>> >>>> On 21 Mar 2016, at 06:26, Thorsten Lemke
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cadintoshmac@yahoogroups.com> wrote:>>>> >>>> Dear Ken,>>>> >>>> >>>> the duplicate process throws no objects away.>>>> Did you maybe use the explode symbols function?>>>> >>>> Thorsten>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> But seriously, this is a MAJOR problem. First of all, a simple Duplicate process is throwing away objects instead of copying everything to the new layer and even when that is fixed, I have a lot of these window symbols in the older doc (in the correct positions in the drawing as that has not changed) and I need to simply copy them all and paste them into the appropriate layer in the newer doc.>>>>> >>>> Ken G i l l e t t_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/Ken G i l l e t t_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/